Jack: You want to take it to heart that you are not a crazy. And when somebody calls you a crazy, when somebody thinks you're "touched," you don't need to get upset. I know that happens. And I know how you can feel inside, and how you can be, you know, ready to explode. Please, you don't need to explode. The problem is that people don't understand it as much as you do. They haven't thought it out. Or they've been taught wrong. They've been taught all the things we've both been taught.

David: Absolutely.

Jack: And you know, you should try to educate them. Explain the position. Understand it yourself. Give them material that will help them to understand, if they'll eat it. If they won't eat it, don't try to force-feed them. It never works. You can't force feed them. You can't feed them something that they're not interested in. And you know what? People aren't, sometimes they're not. Sometimes somebody is sold on an NIV. They're not a prospect for you.

Whatever they say, you don't have to get angry at them. Just say, "Well, that's fine."

You know why? David mentioned to me the other day, that we're holding all the cards.

David: Absolutely. We already have the answers. We have the truth right here. Whenever they're ready to ask the questions, they can ask them.

But look: God spent ten years with me, and I was earnestly seeking! I sought hard and daily and got piles of books and did piles of research. Most people aren't even gonna do that.

Jack: No.

David: And I spent the time that I did and put my heart into it, and God was patient with me over those ten years. And so were some of my other friends, some of whom are here at Chick. Now, they were patient with me. Can't we be patient with other people in the same way? God can lead them. But all we can do is show them that, and be confident.

And you know what? When you're confident, you don't have to "pound the pulpit."

They used to say that old saying in seminary: "When in doubt, pound the pulpit."

Jack: Is that right?

David: Yes!

Jack: No.

David: It's a joke...

Jack: Yeah, but I know that a lot of times...

David: ...it's about the way some preachers are. Some preachers actually preach about questionable things, and they are really unsure, and they pound the pulpit. That's where the saying came from.

And so, yeah, "When in doubt, pound the pulpit." And some people --it makes it look as if we don't believe this.

But the confidence is because we do!

It IS true. I got my whole life changed because of it. And the Lord has so blessed my entire family. My family is growing up in FAITH, not doubting. There's a lot of things to doubt in this world. This (the KJV) is not one of them.

You should always know you HAVE the very words of God. I want to know how I should behave. Proverbs: read it. 31 chapters, 31 days in the longer months. You can go through the book of Proverbs reading a chapter a day. Wow, it will change your life. Your ethics and your thoughts will change, when you have God's words.